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Duncan Shields

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Proposed changes to next season
« on: July 29, 2009, 11:56:32 PM »
The Rules Committee has proposed a change in the procedure for next year's slam competition starting after the IWPS playoffs in September.  Special thanks to everyone involved in the discussions leading up to this.  These changes will be discussed in more detail at the upcoming August family meeting. 

There are two proposed differences.

1. The first difference will be a change to the point system that we use to select which poets get onto the playoff stage. Poets will be awarded a set number of points per slam,determined by where they finished in the top 5. They will amass these points cumulatively over the course of the qualifying season.

The point system for each night will look like this.

1st place - 16 points
2nd place - 9 points
3rd place - 4 points
4th place - 1 point
5th place - 0 points

After slam 13, playoff-stage slots are determined by selecting our top 15 cumalative point-scorers up to that point.

(Our 14th slam is a Wild Card Slam, with priority of entry going to our remaining top 12 point scorers. Any spots not filled by those poets are then open.The winner of the Wild Card Slam is the 16th ranked poet.)

Our hope is that this will reward consistently high-placing poets and encourage first-place winners to come out regularly instead of winning one slam and then relaxing until finals (which is a possibility with our current system).


2. The other difference we are proposing is a cap of seven slams for competing poets.

The cap of seven slams will prevent poets from amassing too many cumaltive points and then continuing to slam, scoring points they no longer need and that others do.

The season has 13 slams so a cap of seven is a little more than half and realistically, only affects about ten or twelve people.

This does not apply to 'alt' slams, only competitive point-scoring slams.

With an eye to the future, we're hoping that this will instigate a better show for the audience, bring a wider variety of poets to the stage, and create a higher consistency of quality from the participants.

After this season is over, we'll re-visit the generated data and see how the dust has settled.

Sign-up will remain the same.

Let me know your thoughts.

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Re: Proposed changes to next season
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 10:32:46 AM »
Thanks, Duncan, for posting the results of the Rules Committee meetings, and thanks to the whole Rules Committee for their diligent work. I know that they want to do what is best for our community, and to enhance the Vancouver Poetry Slam going forward.

Of course, these are big proposed changes, and we should expect a healthy debate about the pros and cons of adopting them. I hope that as many people as possible will follow Duncan's suggestion and let your thoughts known. At the same time, let's remember that even though we may disagree, we should disagree respectfully, as we all have the same goal, which is to make the Van Slam better.

With all that in mind, I suppose my first question is:

1. Isn't it a good thing that first place winners step aside?

It opens up more spots for other poets, and allows others a better chance of getting the thrill of winning a slam, which is a big boost to a fledgling poet's confidence, and makes that poet eager to continue writing and performing. If the slam each week had all of last year's team members competing, as a fledgling poet, I would feel I had only the slimmest of chances of even making the second round, which would be a hugely discouraging.

2. Doesn't our current system reward high-placing poets enough? Do we really want to make sure that someone who keeps placing third makes the play-offs? and if the current system is not broke, why fix it?

A points system rewards not only the quality of placings, but the quantity.

3. So why do we need a points system?

We have a points system for the WOWps qualifying system because we wanted to encourage the women in our community to compete more often, which made a lot of sense. We needed women to compete more often to create more diversity in the voices on our stage, and in our community.

Any points system demands more participation. Poets will be looking to slam as often as they can to rack up points. But we already have a huge line up of poets trying to sign up for our poetry slams. At the end of the last team qualifying season, there were regularly over 20 poets trying to sign up for 12 spots. This was a real problem for our community, and, as I see it, the points system will make this problem worse.

Poets will feel it necessary to slam every chance they get so they can get into the top four and gain points for qualifying. That seems to be why the Rules Committee has put a cap of seven slams for competing poets, but right now the great majority of poets slam less than seven times, far less. The fact that we need a cap is a strong indication to me that the Rules Committee realizes that a points system will increase participation. If we needed more poets signing up each slam, I would be all for this system. But we don't. We need the opposite. We need more opportunities for a growing number of poets to express their work.

I foresee a situation, caused by this points system, where we end up with 30 or more poets vying for those 12 spots at every regular slam, and many poets leaving our scene because they didn't get a chance to share their work. So my last question is: if the current system works, why would we risk pushing the Van Slam toward such a situation?

Again, I thank the whole Rules Committee for their work, and I know that they have been hashing this out for some time now. I recognize that the Rules Committee's only goal is to make the Van Slam better, and I hope that they will continue to work toward this goal.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2009, 12:14:40 PM by Chris Gilpin »

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Re: Proposed changes to next season
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2009, 10:37:27 AM »
fyi, the points system passed at yesterday's Van Slam family meeting.

The cap on the number of times someone can slam also passed with an amendment. Poets will only be allowed to slam at 6 poetry slams in the winter season.

And Duncan Shields was elected as our new international slammaster!

We did have Sue M. taking notes so we'll be able to post more detailed minutes later.