Author Topic: Poetry Slam Playoffs Rule Change Suggestion: no repeats in consecutive years  (Read 1880 times)

ms_spelt

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the point of slam-as conveyed to me by marc smith-is for the judges,not politics to be the feedback to poets.
as marc smith invented slam...
i tend to side with him on this.
I've picked judges at the highest levels of competition and the challenge is always the same-to come up with 5 judges that represent the most diverse cross sample you can-you need judges that are fresh and judges who are experienced.
and judges of every other demographic you can get.
problems of this kind-a lack of prolific quality-are usually systemic and thus the answers frequently are as well.
what i'm saying is that a tactic of this kind doesn't address the cause-it goes after a symptom.
the cause lies in the selection process-and to a lesser degree how many rounds there are in playoffs.
if poets must submit themselves and their work to the judges more often -in a system designed to reward both consistent output and excellent output without one ever displacing the other the problem rights itself.
this tactic doesn'r adress the root of things in selection-the ability to qualify for playoffs with 2 poems and a 2cnd place finish-and then only needing 4 different poems to qualify for the team.
and while banning poems that have occurred in playoffs before from occurring in them again adresses the output issue-doesn't adress the quality issue.
it bans poems that win.
and thus poems of lesser quality-but from poets of more quantity are unopposed and can run up the middle.
the trick lies in having a system that makes _all_poets poems hvae to prove themselves through a rigorous testing.
one night isn't a reprsentative sample-but under our current system it is allowed to be.
several nights?....
different story.
great poems-and I mean GREAT poems stand the test of time.
so...
a system that puts poems and poets more regularly to the test over time does a good job of seperating good from great.
if the judges-a broad array of judges every night-time and again tell a poet a poem is great-fantastic.It's been tested time and again against the braodest sample we can muster.
send that poem to nps.
if a poet overstays a poem...
a broad sample of judges time and again will catch that-and send a message to the poet to write more and write better.
but that's the judges place to say-not ours.
what we require is a system that empowers those judges to properly hold poets to account.
which means more time in front of more judges.
I 've looked at this a bit and I assure you the systemic approach is the way to go here.
I agree with the goal.
but i want the best way we can muster to get there.
and that means a look at the entire system and a system change.
 
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every wolf that keeps it shall prosper-every wolf that does not must die
like the creeper the girdles the tree trunk,the law circles forward and back
the strength of the pack is the wolf and the strength of the wolf is the pack"

Shannon

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This issue keeps coming up in my mind, and I have had a mild change in heart.

I now think we should allow poems to be repeated in semi finals and finals.

One of the reasons why I see it this way is because there are some circumstances in which the performance of a poem might be completely different.  IT would be crappy if a poet did a bad job of a poem in one year and then fixed all the problems with it and it rocked and then they couldn't do it the next year.

So my thought is:  poets should be able to do whatever they wanted at any time.

IF we are concerned about redundancy or the possibility of poets making the team with only two good poems than perhaps a way to resolve this is to ask that poets have to have competed at least twice to make semis or something like that.